Comments on: Vote in AfterEllen’s Hot 100 & Increase Gender Diversity in Lesbian Pop Culture http://www.sugarbutch.net/2010/04/vote-in-afterellens-hot-100-increase-gender-diversity-in-lesbian-pop-culture/ The sex, gender, and relationship adventures of a kinky queer butch top Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:11:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: LC http://www.sugarbutch.net/2010/04/vote-in-afterellens-hot-100-increase-gender-diversity-in-lesbian-pop-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-11799 LC Thu, 13 May 2010 13:49:44 +0000 http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=4816#comment-11799 Favourite TV butch - SD Holman on some canadian TV series called 'Madison'. It was on TV in the UK in 1996-ish, when I was 16 and getting a very shy teenage butch to fingerfuck me in her evangelical youth worker's house. I wish this existed on DVD - it was the first time i'd seen any proper butch represented on TV and it made me feel that being attracted to a butch girl was normal Favourite TV butch – SD Holman on some canadian TV series called 'Madison'. It was on TV in the UK in 1996-ish, when I was 16 and getting a very shy teenage butch to fingerfuck me in her evangelical youth worker's house. I wish this existed on DVD – it was the first time i'd seen any proper butch represented on TV and it made me feel that being attracted to a butch girl was normal

]]> By: Benjamin_Beks http://www.sugarbutch.net/2010/04/vote-in-afterellens-hot-100-increase-gender-diversity-in-lesbian-pop-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-11600 Benjamin_Beks Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:18:51 +0000 http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=4816#comment-11600 I have to admit, when I saw your name on the byline, I kinda got weired out at the meshing of my interests (afterellen + you = a match made in heaven?) but to be honest, I'm really glad you posted that article. Being both a burgeoning genderqueer and possible performer, my main ambition has been to bring alternative gender expressions to the forefront. 90% of the time, if there's a true butch character on television, they're used for comedic purposes. And it's never funny. So yeah, there's some work to be done. I may be under 20, but I do remember life before the L-word or anything like that, and it was just as irritating and everyone remembers... I have to admit, when I saw your name on the byline, I kinda got weired out at the meshing of my interests (afterellen + you = a match made in heaven?) but to be honest, I'm really glad you posted that article. Being both a burgeoning genderqueer and possible performer, my main ambition has been to bring alternative gender expressions to the forefront. 90% of the time, if there's a true butch character on television, they're used for comedic purposes. And it's never funny. So yeah, there's some work to be done. I may be under 20, but I do remember life before the L-word or anything like that, and it was just as irritating and everyone remembers…

]]> By: Texas girl http://www.sugarbutch.net/2010/04/vote-in-afterellens-hot-100-increase-gender-diversity-in-lesbian-pop-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-11592 Texas girl Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:54:47 +0000 http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=4816#comment-11592 TASHA IS BUTCH. In what world is she NOT? She's 100000 times more butch than Shane, and Rose Rollins did a GREAT job with her character. Also, your list was basically all white. What about Davonee on Gimme Sugar? Jenny Shimizu on Make Me a Supermodel? And if you're looking for a real life hot butch (who also a self-made millionaire), look up Vanessa Selbst. TASHA IS BUTCH. In what world is she NOT? She's 100000 times more butch than Shane, and Rose Rollins did a GREAT job with her character.

Also, your list was basically all white. What about Davonee on Gimme Sugar? Jenny Shimizu on Make Me a Supermodel?

And if you're looking for a real life hot butch (who also a self-made millionaire), look up Vanessa Selbst.

]]> By: Eli Deep http://www.sugarbutch.net/2010/04/vote-in-afterellens-hot-100-increase-gender-diversity-in-lesbian-pop-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-11585 Eli Deep Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:46:51 +0000 http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=4816#comment-11585 I don't want to come off as overkill, since I already mentioned Tasha from The L Word, but, upon further reflection, I feel like there were some serious omissions in your original AfterEllen post, including but not limited to: Jackie Warner from Work Out on Bravo; Jen, Josie, and Lisa from different seasons of Top Chef on Bravo; Wanda Sykes from The New Adventures of Old Christine, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and The Wanda Sykes Show; Jillian Michaels from The Biggest Loser; Ev, Rachel, Coral, Ayanna from the Real World/Road Rules challenges, Ivan from The L Word, Selma from Big Love, Isabel from Weeds, a couple of contestants on America's Next Top Model, etc. I've limited myself to people who have been on television recently, but when opening up to the last 5-10 years, and especially when broadening the frame of butch just slightly, I'm able to think of easily 30 more women on TV who are outside the typical frame of feminine presentation. Obviously I wish there was more representation of butches on TV, but I feel like your list was nowhere near complete. I don't mean to always offer criticism, but I find it really frustrating that your post included only 6 people (some of which you questioned their butchness) when there are so many other out butch women on television. As I stated, I wish there was more representation of butches, but I think we should at least accurately represent the representation that we do have. I don't want to come off as overkill, since I already mentioned Tasha from The L Word, but, upon further reflection, I feel like there were some serious omissions in your original AfterEllen post, including but not limited to:

Jackie Warner from Work Out on Bravo; Jen, Josie, and Lisa from different seasons of Top Chef on Bravo; Wanda Sykes from The New Adventures of Old Christine, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and The Wanda Sykes Show; Jillian Michaels from The Biggest Loser; Ev, Rachel, Coral, Ayanna from the Real World/Road Rules challenges, Ivan from The L Word, Selma from Big Love, Isabel from Weeds, a couple of contestants on America's Next Top Model, etc. I've limited myself to people who have been on television recently, but when opening up to the last 5-10 years, and especially when broadening the frame of butch just slightly, I'm able to think of easily 30 more women on TV who are outside the typical frame of feminine presentation. Obviously I wish there was more representation of butches on TV, but I feel like your list was nowhere near complete. I don't mean to always offer criticism, but I find it really frustrating that your post included only 6 people (some of which you questioned their butchness) when there are so many other out butch women on television. As I stated, I wish there was more representation of butches, but I think we should at least accurately represent the representation that we do have.

]]> By: Sinclair http://www.sugarbutch.net/2010/04/vote-in-afterellens-hot-100-increase-gender-diversity-in-lesbian-pop-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-11581 Sinclair Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:41:06 +0000 http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=4816#comment-11581 Totally agree—she should be on that list. It's because we had a fairly strict policy about those on the final list being in the public eye *now*. Of course, this year, she's been out & about much more again, especially as COO of GV. If/when I do an update, she's the first one to be added! Totally agree—she should be on that list. It's because we had a fairly strict policy about those on the final list being in the public eye *now*.

Of course, this year, she's been out & about much more again, especially as COO of GV. If/when I do an update, she's the first one to be added!

]]> By: Sinclair http://www.sugarbutch.net/2010/04/vote-in-afterellens-hot-100-increase-gender-diversity-in-lesbian-pop-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-11580 Sinclair Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:40:13 +0000 http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=4816#comment-11580 hahahah I so love that you just said 'yumsauce.' and 'holy balls.' hahahah I so love that you just said 'yumsauce.' and 'holy balls.'

]]> By: Fit For A Femme http://www.sugarbutch.net/2010/04/vote-in-afterellens-hot-100-increase-gender-diversity-in-lesbian-pop-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-11579 Fit For A Femme Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:38:44 +0000 http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=4816#comment-11579 Holy balls, you just reminded me of Chloe in If These Walls Could Talk II! YUMSAUCE. Holy balls, you just reminded me of Chloe in If These Walls Could Talk II! YUMSAUCE.

]]> By: Shar http://www.sugarbutch.net/2010/04/vote-in-afterellens-hot-100-increase-gender-diversity-in-lesbian-pop-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-11573 Shar Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:12:37 +0000 http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=4816#comment-11573 Ummm....In my opinion Jackie Strano should be number one or at least on your list. I know we were off the radar raising the next generation of freaks but c'mon now. The Hail Marys her old band served up butch hotness for 9 years. Her songs have saved baby queers from suicide not to mention been on excellent soundtracks. She's super hot, super genderfreak walking the streets in her skin, and the best fuck ever. not to mention a gentleman and hilarious. Ummm….In my opinion Jackie Strano should be number one or at least on your list. I know we were off the radar raising the next generation of freaks but c'mon now. The Hail Marys her old band served up butch hotness for 9 years. Her songs have saved baby queers from suicide not to mention been on excellent soundtracks. She's super hot, super genderfreak walking the streets in her skin, and the best fuck ever. not to mention a gentleman and hilarious.

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