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		<title>By: Femme Invisibility &#38; Beyond : Sugarbutch Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/11/on-femme-invisibility/comment-page-2/#comment-16445</link>
		<dc:creator>Femme Invisibility &#38; Beyond : Sugarbutch Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and I have lots of thoughts about it. Probably mostly I&#8217;ll say the same things that I said in 2009 when I wrote this piece, &#8220;On Femme Invisibility,&#8221;, but I have a few new things to say, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and I have lots of thoughts about it. Probably mostly I&#8217;ll say the same things that I said in 2009 when I wrote this piece, &#8220;On Femme Invisibility,&#8221;, but I have a few new things to say, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jaron Lanier and &#8216;Bad Systems&#8217; &#124; Breaking Boxes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaron Lanier and &#8216;Bad Systems&#8217; &#124; Breaking Boxes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] look or act ‘too feminine’. Something as simple as this can be damaging and cause a feeling of femme invisibility. Conversely straight men who are seen with having some queer mannerisms can be bullied and constantly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jaron Lanier &#8211; Bad Systems &#124; Julia R Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/11/on-femme-invisibility/comment-page-2/#comment-16137</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaron Lanier &#8211; Bad Systems &#124; Julia R Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] act &#8216;too feminine&#8217;. Something as simple as this can be damaging and cause a feeling of femme invisibility. Conversely straight men who are seen with having some queer mannerisms can be bullied and constantly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] act &#8216;too feminine&#8217;. Something as simple as this can be damaging and cause a feeling of femme invisibility. Conversely straight men who are seen with having some queer mannerisms can be bullied and constantly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Femme Conference Will Be in Baltimore, August 2012 and the Question: What is even DISCUSSED at a &#8220;femme conference&#8221;? : Sugarbutch Chronicles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Femme Conference Will Be in Baltimore, August 2012 and the Question: What is even DISCUSSED at a &#8220;femme conference&#8221;? : Sugarbutch Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of other folks on tumblr jumped in as well, including myself. I wrote back: What is discussed? Femme invisibility, creating femme identity in radical &amp; responsible ways, community, queer markers …and tons [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of other folks on tumblr jumped in as well, including myself. I wrote back: What is discussed? Femme invisibility, creating femme identity in radical &amp; responsible ways, community, queer markers …and tons [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mae</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/11/on-femme-invisibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10854</link>
		<dc:creator>mae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks so for this post and all your shared writing. this whole femme in/visibility thing is something i&#039;ve been hashing out for a long time- maybe i&#039;ll have some answers when i&#039;m an old lady. luckily i get to figure it out in a close circle of fucking radical femmes for all of whom femme means (and looks) something different.  
we all met around the same time, and right off one of them started calling me the scraggle femme. i&#039;ll gladly take that, and if you ask my gender identity/presentation, that&#039;s what i&#039;ll say.  
i identify as femme, and damn if i&#039;m not a sucker for antique silk lingerie and 1940s dresses. but it&#039;s almost more about attitude, about being gracious and tough and knowing how to receive attention. i like to think of femme as a superpower. here&#039;s the deal- i fix bikes, ride trains, grow food, and while i love to be taken on a date and get my dress dirty running through alleys or fucking in the park, i&#039;m more likely to be in greasy work pants, black boots, and big hoop earrings, trying to get you to ask me to come over and have a beer. i like to put my hand on the small of a pretty girl&#039;s back and have her look at me under smoky eyelids. i&#039;ll open the door for you, maybe especially if my heels are higher than yours, and i want to be courted. scraggle femme. it can get confusing sometimes, wondering if i&#039;m femme enough, or if i&#039;m using an empty word that&#039;s betrayed by how i look. visibility becomes key here in claiming hardworking femme from the grasping tentacles of androgyny. 
i could go on and maybe render this more compellingly. for brevity&#039;s sake i won&#039;t. so let&#039;s push it, my brilliant extended community. i think we&#039;ve got some really good tools for figuring out this gender stuff. let&#039;s start getting our hands dirty in the messy complexity of femme and butch and every other queer gender. let&#039;s talk about femme chivalry, about coy butches, about topping from the bottom and all of those glorious possiblities. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks so for this post and all your shared writing. this whole femme in/visibility thing is something i&#039;ve been hashing out for a long time- maybe i&#039;ll have some answers when i&#039;m an old lady. luckily i get to figure it out in a close circle of fucking radical femmes for all of whom femme means (and looks) something different. </p>
<p>we all met around the same time, and right off one of them started calling me the scraggle femme. i&#039;ll gladly take that, and if you ask my gender identity/presentation, that&#039;s what i&#039;ll say. </p>
<p>i identify as femme, and damn if i&#039;m not a sucker for antique silk lingerie and 1940s dresses. but it&#039;s almost more about attitude, about being gracious and tough and knowing how to receive attention. i like to think of femme as a superpower. here&#039;s the deal- i fix bikes, ride trains, grow food, and while i love to be taken on a date and get my dress dirty running through alleys or fucking in the park, i&#039;m more likely to be in greasy work pants, black boots, and big hoop earrings, trying to get you to ask me to come over and have a beer. i like to put my hand on the small of a pretty girl&#039;s back and have her look at me under smoky eyelids. i&#039;ll open the door for you, maybe especially if my heels are higher than yours, and i want to be courted. scraggle femme. it can get confusing sometimes, wondering if i&#039;m femme enough, or if i&#039;m using an empty word that&#039;s betrayed by how i look. visibility becomes key here in claiming hardworking femme from the grasping tentacles of androgyny.</p>
<p>i could go on and maybe render this more compellingly. for brevity&#039;s sake i won&#039;t. so let&#039;s push it, my brilliant extended community. i think we&#039;ve got some really good tools for figuring out this gender stuff. let&#039;s start getting our hands dirty in the messy complexity of femme and butch and every other queer gender. let&#039;s talk about femme chivalry, about coy butches, about topping from the bottom and all of those glorious possiblities.</p>
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		<title>By: Femme, Domme, and Self-Definition &#124; Dangerous Women</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/11/on-femme-invisibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10482</link>
		<dc:creator>Femme, Domme, and Self-Definition &#124; Dangerous Women</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pulp Press) Whipping Girl (Written by Julia Serano, Published by Seal Press) AND From Sugar Butch: On Femme Invisibility and Further Thoughts on Privilege and Gender     Tagged in: All About Me, bdsm, femme, gender, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sweet Betty D and Carlin linked me! (: &#171; Jexhibitionism</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/11/on-femme-invisibility/comment-page-1/#comment-9933</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Betty D and Carlin linked me! (: &#171; Jexhibitionism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ago there were a few interesting posts about femme (in)visibility going around the blogosphere (Sugarbutch, “can I help you, sir?”) . They’re really interesting to read but do I want my blog to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ago there were a few interesting posts about femme (in)visibility going around the blogosphere (Sugarbutch, “can I help you, sir?”) . They’re really interesting to read but do I want my blog to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tawny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tawny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing this, and also to everyone who commented because I *need* these things in my life.  I&#039;m still struggling a little bit to define who I am, gender-wise, because everything feels a little uncomfortable.  Most people call me soft butch or low femme, but I&#039;m not sure that the &quot;soft/low&quot; part of it is really who I am.  
 
I think I might have some defenses up still from having grown up being inundated in GIRLS LOVE TO COOK AND CLEAN messages and wanting to buck that system like nothing else.  My queer identity has helped immensely.  I realized I was bi last year, and the friendships and sex partners (and friendly sex partners) that I found through my local community were amazing and sometimes life-changing.  But now that I am with a straight man, I feel like I am denying myself a part of my identity somehow, and that&#039;s uncomfortable.  So now a feminine-ness that might have come out otherwise is being stifled because I am in a traditional hetero relationship. 
 
This is more than I can really pick apart in one comment on someone else&#039;s blog (haha), so I am going to stop here.  But suffice to say, this woke me up to some of the feminine things I tend to do and just pretend that I don&#039;t necessarily like them, and I am hoping that this is the first step to becoming more comfortable with those things.  (Thanks, too, to Feminatrix up there!) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this, and also to everyone who commented because I *need* these things in my life.  I&#039;m still struggling a little bit to define who I am, gender-wise, because everything feels a little uncomfortable.  Most people call me soft butch or low femme, but I&#039;m not sure that the &quot;soft/low&quot; part of it is really who I am. </p>
<p>I think I might have some defenses up still from having grown up being inundated in GIRLS LOVE TO COOK AND CLEAN messages and wanting to buck that system like nothing else.  My queer identity has helped immensely.  I realized I was bi last year, and the friendships and sex partners (and friendly sex partners) that I found through my local community were amazing and sometimes life-changing.  But now that I am with a straight man, I feel like I am denying myself a part of my identity somehow, and that&#039;s uncomfortable.  So now a feminine-ness that might have come out otherwise is being stifled because I am in a traditional hetero relationship.</p>
<p>This is more than I can really pick apart in one comment on someone else&#039;s blog (haha), so I am going to stop here.  But suffice to say, this woke me up to some of the feminine things I tend to do and just pretend that I don&#039;t necessarily like them, and I am hoping that this is the first step to becoming more comfortable with those things.  (Thanks, too, to Feminatrix up there!)</p>
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		<title>By: snow day zine day! &#171; Sassyfrass Circus Productions</title>
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		<dc:creator>snow day zine day! &#171; Sassyfrass Circus Productions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] p.s. a sweet blog post on femme (in)visibility. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/11/on-femme-invisibility/comment-page-1/#comment-9859</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks for writing about this. I&#039;m not an active participant in the queer community anywhere and only got here when a friend linked this... Suddenly the past few years are making a whole lot more sense to me. 
 
I was pretty feminine (not overtly) until I realised I was bisexual. Downgraded the girliness a little. A few years later I realised I am a lesbian, and girliness began to feel downright uncomfortable. It is, I believe, not exactly the same as what Alphafemme went through but in a similar vein. Instead of not accepting the idea of myself being a lesbian because I was feminine, I didn&#039;t accept the idea of myself being feminine because I&#039;m a lesbian. (Being burned by a girly girl who turned out to be straight didn&#039;t help, that&#039;s for sure.) 
 
It was helpful to read this article, truly, especially since my (femme) GF has expressed her opinion on the situation, i.e. she likes her girls as girls - not trying to insult anyone here - and I&#039;ve no problem with that because, honestly? I quite like myself as a girl, too. (By saying &#039;girl&#039;, I mean &#039;girly girl, not butch&#039;.) Your text made me realise that it&#039;s okay to be gay - and a girl. Talk about cultural conditioning... 
 
And as for the secret wink, I reckon the rainbow badge with two high-heeled boots in it that&#039;s visible on my bag will be enough of a hint to other queer people. ;) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for writing about this. I&#039;m not an active participant in the queer community anywhere and only got here when a friend linked this&#8230; Suddenly the past few years are making a whole lot more sense to me.</p>
<p>I was pretty feminine (not overtly) until I realised I was bisexual. Downgraded the girliness a little. A few years later I realised I am a lesbian, and girliness began to feel downright uncomfortable. It is, I believe, not exactly the same as what Alphafemme went through but in a similar vein. Instead of not accepting the idea of myself being a lesbian because I was feminine, I didn&#039;t accept the idea of myself being feminine because I&#039;m a lesbian. (Being burned by a girly girl who turned out to be straight didn&#039;t help, that&#039;s for sure.)</p>
<p>It was helpful to read this article, truly, especially since my (femme) GF has expressed her opinion on the situation, i.e. she likes her girls as girls &#8211; not trying to insult anyone here &#8211; and I&#039;ve no problem with that because, honestly? I quite like myself as a girl, too. (By saying &#039;girl&#039;, I mean &#039;girly girl, not butch&#039;.) Your text made me realise that it&#039;s okay to be gay &#8211; and a girl. Talk about cultural conditioning&#8230;</p>
<p>And as for the secret wink, I reckon the rainbow badge with two high-heeled boots in it that&#039;s visible on my bag will be enough of a hint to other queer people. ;)</p>
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