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		<title>By: North</title>
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		<dc:creator>North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s fine for Connecticut&#039;s marriage equality group to disband.  We don&#039;t need to splinter the queer movement any more than it&#039;s already splintered, and there&#039;s a place in any movement for single-issue organizations (and no need to pay for the overhead of keeping them running once that issue is dealt with).  I would hope, of course, that the people who were working on marriage equality in CT would just move on to work on more/different issue.

I&#039;m reminded in all this of the importance of BOTH the people who make queers look normal and respectable - Lt. Daniel Choi on Rachel Maddow, the plaintiffs in the marriage equality cases - and the sex/gender radicals.  We need to comprehensively rethink family, gender, and sexuality, but we also need the people who stand one tiny step outside the mainstream.  It&#039;d be nice to have a movement where those people can be allies.  I&#039;m afraid it&#039;s often hard for the people near the mainstream to recognize what they owe to radicals and rioters, though, because it threatens their own position to draw those alliances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fine for Connecticut&#8217;s marriage equality group to disband.  We don&#8217;t need to splinter the queer movement any more than it&#8217;s already splintered, and there&#8217;s a place in any movement for single-issue organizations (and no need to pay for the overhead of keeping them running once that issue is dealt with).  I would hope, of course, that the people who were working on marriage equality in CT would just move on to work on more/different issue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded in all this of the importance of BOTH the people who make queers look normal and respectable &#8211; Lt. Daniel Choi on Rachel Maddow, the plaintiffs in the marriage equality cases &#8211; and the sex/gender radicals.  We need to comprehensively rethink family, gender, and sexuality, but we also need the people who stand one tiny step outside the mainstream.  It&#8217;d be nice to have a movement where those people can be allies.  I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s often hard for the people near the mainstream to recognize what they owe to radicals and rioters, though, because it threatens their own position to draw those alliances.</p>
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		<title>By: freedomgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedomgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for the record, massachusetts talks with a WICKED lot of slang. 
 
and yeah, there&#039;s tons of work still to be done.  MassEquality is a good example of a gay-marriage-focused group that managed to retrench and change focus when equal marriage was recognized here in MA; now they work on advocacy in general for the LGBTQI etc. community at large, and they lend their organizing capacity to other groups as well.  we should not let these groups die -- perhaps one of the things we can do is expand the reach to include other marginalized communities, whose needs and populations often overlap with ours -- immigrants, communities of color, educational advocacy groups... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for the record, massachusetts talks with a WICKED lot of slang.</p>
<p>and yeah, there&#039;s tons of work still to be done.  MassEquality is a good example of a gay-marriage-focused group that managed to retrench and change focus when equal marriage was recognized here in MA; now they work on advocacy in general for the LGBTQI etc. community at large, and they lend their organizing capacity to other groups as well.  we should not let these groups die &#8212; perhaps one of the things we can do is expand the reach to include other marginalized communities, whose needs and populations often overlap with ours &#8212; immigrants, communities of color, educational advocacy groups&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the UK, and my patner and i tied the kow 4 weeks ago in a Civil Partnership - marriage in everything but the technical term I guess. The most wonderful part of the day was gathering with friends and family from 8 to 85 in a legal setting and entering into a legally binding commitment of our love.  
 
We have a phenomenally long way to go worldwide in addressing queer issues, but it is one giant step forward. It makes me want to push forward rather than sit on my laurels and think all is good in the equality rose garden. 
 
I hope the rest of your states follow suit soon. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the UK, and my patner and i tied the kow 4 weeks ago in a Civil Partnership &#8211; marriage in everything but the technical term I guess. The most wonderful part of the day was gathering with friends and family from 8 to 85 in a legal setting and entering into a legally binding commitment of our love. </p>
<p>We have a phenomenally long way to go worldwide in addressing queer issues, but it is one giant step forward. It makes me want to push forward rather than sit on my laurels and think all is good in the equality rose garden.</p>
<p>I hope the rest of your states follow suit soon.</p>
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		<title>By: lady brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>lady brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 12:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ugh, only sometimes, but sometimes it makes me sick to be southern. not to mention that 12 of the bottom 13 (hi, neighbors) on fivethirtyeight&#039;s list would have to *overturn* a previous vote, which will take a lot longer. it may well have hit the federal level by then, though. 
 
but i very, very much agree with you about getting our gay priorities straight. 
 
(p.s. equality is surely a better thing, but does that really make conformity a bad thing?) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ugh, only sometimes, but sometimes it makes me sick to be southern. not to mention that 12 of the bottom 13 (hi, neighbors) on fivethirtyeight&#039;s list would have to *overturn* a previous vote, which will take a lot longer. it may well have hit the federal level by then, though.</p>
<p>but i very, very much agree with you about getting our gay priorities straight.</p>
<p>(p.s. equality is surely a better thing, but does that really make conformity a bad thing?)</p>
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		<title>By: Mirri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 10:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Holland (where I grew up), when gay marriage became legal (I was 16 at the time), it did really feel like something that was supposed to happen - if there was any weird right-winged backlash, I honestly can&#039;t remember. I can&#039;t wait to see all of the US and Britain (where I live now) follow suit! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Holland (where I grew up), when gay marriage became legal (I was 16 at the time), it did really feel like something that was supposed to happen &#8211; if there was any weird right-winged backlash, I honestly can&#039;t remember. I can&#039;t wait to see all of the US and Britain (where I live now) follow suit!</p>
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		<title>By: green-eyed girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>green-eyed girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 10:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post, I love it when you get all activisty! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post, I love it when you get all activisty!</p>
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