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	<title>Comments on: Gendered Sources of Physical Power: Beauty vs Strength</title>
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		<title>By: Articulating What I Need When I Need It &#8211; Sugarbutch Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/02/gendered-sources-of-physical-power-beauty-vs-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-10470</link>
		<dc:creator>Articulating What I Need When I Need It &#8211; Sugarbutch Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] feel strong. This is part of gendered sources of power, I think, in how some of us want to feel strong while others of us want to feel beautiful, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sinclair</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/02/gendered-sources-of-physical-power-beauty-vs-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-6503</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes yes yes of course -- there are still real problems and complications with femmes/women seen as strong and butches/men seen as beautiful. and that is a real thing that needs real attention and care and consciousness, for sure. there are pages and pages that I could write about that.  
 
but that&#039;s not what I was trying to explore here - I don&#039;t want to skip over it, that&#039;s all totally valid to me and what you said was articulated very well, you made some great points, pretty much totally agree. what I wanted to open up were the ways that this gendered physical power dynamic gets replayed in butch/femme relationships in ways that are validating and important, not just the ways that it is a problem. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes yes yes of course &#8212; there are still real problems and complications with femmes/women seen as strong and butches/men seen as beautiful. and that is a real thing that needs real attention and care and consciousness, for sure. there are pages and pages that I could write about that. </p>
<p>but that&#039;s not what I was trying to explore here &#8211; I don&#039;t want to skip over it, that&#039;s all totally valid to me and what you said was articulated very well, you made some great points, pretty much totally agree. what I wanted to open up were the ways that this gendered physical power dynamic gets replayed in butch/femme relationships in ways that are validating and important, not just the ways that it is a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when i read this, part of me identified with what you were saying, but another part of me was very sad that strength and beauty continue to be constructed as a dichotomy. why can&#039;t someone simultaneously love being appreciated for beauty AND for physical strength? my butch girlfriend is beautiful. and though i&#039;m incredibly femme-y, rarely leave the house without lipstick and heels, and am generally submissive in bed, i am strong. i grew up as a girl who was encouraged to concentrate on my physical appearance. even when i participated in sports, it was often to &quot;get myself in shape,&quot; rather than to enjoy my strength. it wasn&#039;t until my 20s, when i found that my stamina and strength in hiking and biking sometimes surpassed the boys&#039;, that i began to enjoy and cultivate my body&#039;s strength, rather than just its appearance.  
 
and through my gendered relationships with butch women, i&#039;ve had to fight to keep a positive appreciation for my strength--almost more than in my relationships with boys. my partner is strong, too, but she knows that when i submit, it&#039;s because i want to, not because she can totally physically overwhelm me. i&#039;m proud to be femme-y and sexy, and to have enough muscle to allow me to do multiple pull-ups.  
 
i realize how powerful it must be for butches to be recognized as physically strong, since they also grew up in this culture as girls. for butch women, embracing physical strength is transgressive. for femme women, being perceived as beautiful--when it is seen in opposition to being strong--is just another iteration of tired old cultural norms.  
 
don&#039;t get me wrong: i love it when my girlfriend tells me i&#039;m beautiful. but we both know that being beautiful doesn&#039;t preclude being strong. i don&#039;t think we have to be one without the other; i don&#039;t think one of us has to be one, and one the other. 
 
anyway, i hope this comment wasn&#039;t too contrary. congrats on the lezzy awards! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i read this, part of me identified with what you were saying, but another part of me was very sad that strength and beauty continue to be constructed as a dichotomy. why can&#039;t someone simultaneously love being appreciated for beauty AND for physical strength? my butch girlfriend is beautiful. and though i&#039;m incredibly femme-y, rarely leave the house without lipstick and heels, and am generally submissive in bed, i am strong. i grew up as a girl who was encouraged to concentrate on my physical appearance. even when i participated in sports, it was often to &quot;get myself in shape,&quot; rather than to enjoy my strength. it wasn&#039;t until my 20s, when i found that my stamina and strength in hiking and biking sometimes surpassed the boys&#039;, that i began to enjoy and cultivate my body&#039;s strength, rather than just its appearance. </p>
<p>and through my gendered relationships with butch women, i&#039;ve had to fight to keep a positive appreciation for my strength&#8211;almost more than in my relationships with boys. my partner is strong, too, but she knows that when i submit, it&#039;s because i want to, not because she can totally physically overwhelm me. i&#039;m proud to be femme-y and sexy, and to have enough muscle to allow me to do multiple pull-ups. </p>
<p>i realize how powerful it must be for butches to be recognized as physically strong, since they also grew up in this culture as girls. for butch women, embracing physical strength is transgressive. for femme women, being perceived as beautiful&#8211;when it is seen in opposition to being strong&#8211;is just another iteration of tired old cultural norms. </p>
<p>don&#039;t get me wrong: i love it when my girlfriend tells me i&#039;m beautiful. but we both know that being beautiful doesn&#039;t preclude being strong. i don&#039;t think we have to be one without the other; i don&#039;t think one of us has to be one, and one the other.</p>
<p>anyway, i hope this comment wasn&#039;t too contrary. congrats on the lezzy awards!</p>
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		<title>By: Katrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night, my friend S and I were at her new home. She asked if she could pick me up, swung me up into her arms, and carried me around the kitchen happily. While she was doing this, she remarked to one of our friends that I made her feel strong. She does this often and I enjoy it just as much as she does. There&#039;s something delightful about being scooped up and carried. It makes me laugh and I feel precious. 
 
These sources of physical power compliment each other so well. It&#039;s an exchange of giving and receiving. Beauty is supported by and inspires strength. Strength is nourished by and cherishes beauty. We enjoy the interplay of masculine and feminine energies no matter how it manifests, because it&#039;s symbiotic. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night, my friend S and I were at her new home. She asked if she could pick me up, swung me up into her arms, and carried me around the kitchen happily. While she was doing this, she remarked to one of our friends that I made her feel strong. She does this often and I enjoy it just as much as she does. There&#039;s something delightful about being scooped up and carried. It makes me laugh and I feel precious.</p>
<p>These sources of physical power compliment each other so well. It&#039;s an exchange of giving and receiving. Beauty is supported by and inspires strength. Strength is nourished by and cherishes beauty. We enjoy the interplay of masculine and feminine energies no matter how it manifests, because it&#039;s symbiotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Pugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it comes from society.  Maybe it comes from our earliest memories of belonging to our families.  But I know when someone tells me I&#039;m beautiful, I feel powerful.  By the same token, when I&#039;ve told a lover she is strong or makes me feel protected.... I can see her swell with pride.  I don&#039;t know why that is.  It just is. 
 
God your writing makes me think and moves me in so many ways!  Good luck with the Lezzy&#039;s! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it comes from society.  Maybe it comes from our earliest memories of belonging to our families.  But I know when someone tells me I&#039;m beautiful, I feel powerful.  By the same token, when I&#039;ve told a lover she is strong or makes me feel protected&#8230;. I can see her swell with pride.  I don&#039;t know why that is.  It just is.</p>
<p>God your writing makes me think and moves me in so many ways!  Good luck with the Lezzy&#039;s!</p>
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		<title>By: scantron</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/02/gendered-sources-of-physical-power-beauty-vs-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-6479</link>
		<dc:creator>scantron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congrats on making it to the top 3 in the gender bender blog category of the Lezzy Awards! Good luck! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congrats on making it to the top 3 in the gender bender blog category of the Lezzy Awards! Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Joliesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joliesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a beautifully written perspective. Food for thought, and I have to agree that my favorite line was &quot;made up of a thousand tiny grains, the breakdown of everywhere I&#8217;ve ever been.&quot; 
 
I take pride in my femme appearance in all its varying aspects of beauty, but to me, that&#039;s the physical manifestation of what makes me &quot;strong.&quot; Willing to be different, to flaunt norms and conventions, that all takes a strength and intention that is just obvious (to me, at least). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beautifully written perspective. Food for thought, and I have to agree that my favorite line was &quot;made up of a thousand tiny grains, the breakdown of everywhere I&rsquo;ve ever been.&quot;</p>
<p>I take pride in my femme appearance in all its varying aspects of beauty, but to me, that&#039;s the physical manifestation of what makes me &quot;strong.&quot; Willing to be different, to flaunt norms and conventions, that all takes a strength and intention that is just obvious (to me, at least).</p>
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		<title>By: SuperTex</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperTex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude. spot on. 
 
this post made me think of the best nickname a girl has ever given me. i was in college, and to be honest, we didn&#039;t really know each other. we had mutual friends, but we more or less knew each other through the camaraderie that comes with being scholarship athletes. everytime she saw me me she said, &quot;hey stud&quot; with the biggest of smiles. i don&#039;t think she was gay, and i&#039;m really not sure what she thought of me, but oh man....i fuckin LOVED hearing that!  
 
it really is something special when your physical prowess is acknowleged by a beautiful femme... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude. spot on.</p>
<p>this post made me think of the best nickname a girl has ever given me. i was in college, and to be honest, we didn&#039;t really know each other. we had mutual friends, but we more or less knew each other through the camaraderie that comes with being scholarship athletes. everytime she saw me me she said, &quot;hey stud&quot; with the biggest of smiles. i don&#039;t think she was gay, and i&#039;m really not sure what she thought of me, but oh man&#8230;.i fuckin LOVED hearing that! </p>
<p>it really is something special when your physical prowess is acknowleged by a beautiful femme&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: deviantdyke</title>
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		<dc:creator>deviantdyke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woderfully said.  
 
I for one know that I get off on amplifing the extremities of butch ond femme.  
 
I am a femme and I LOVE being told I am beautiful, sexy, and attractive in the many ways such handsome bois know how to convey. I know I am &quot;strong&quot; but the place I&#039;m working from is all about beauty and using that beauty to create my life. There is so much power a femme can convey in something as slight as a smile. Or the way she can stop traffic in the middle of an intersection just by walking across with her heeled soles and solid curves.  
 
mm...I love being femme.  
 
Oh and I love talking up bois and butches in just the right way. Stroking the ego eagerly. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woderfully said. </p>
<p>I for one know that I get off on amplifing the extremities of butch ond femme. </p>
<p>I am a femme and I LOVE being told I am beautiful, sexy, and attractive in the many ways such handsome bois know how to convey. I know I am &quot;strong&quot; but the place I&#039;m working from is all about beauty and using that beauty to create my life. There is so much power a femme can convey in something as slight as a smile. Or the way she can stop traffic in the middle of an intersection just by walking across with her heeled soles and solid curves. </p>
<p>mm&#8230;I love being femme. </p>
<p>Oh and I love talking up bois and butches in just the right way. Stroking the ego eagerly.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;made up of a thousand tiny grains, the breakdown of everywhere I&#8217;ve ever been&quot; - my favorite line.   
 
I&#039;m so happy that you have someone in your life who seems to give you some much needed calm to match the hottness you crave-she sounds like a dream. :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;made up of a thousand tiny grains, the breakdown of everywhere I&rsquo;ve ever been&quot; &#8211; my favorite line.  </p>
<p>I&#039;m so happy that you have someone in your life who seems to give you some much needed calm to match the hottness you crave-she sounds like a dream. :)</p>
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