<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Review: The Pleasure&#8217;s All Mine (book)</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/</link>
	<description>The sex, gender, and relationship adventures of a kinky queer butch top</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:09:45 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pleasurists Catchup &#8211; #11 and #12! &#171; Desk Full of Dildos</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-7912</link>
		<dc:creator>Pleasurists Catchup &#8211; #11 and #12! &#171; Desk Full of Dildos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-7912</guid>
		<description>[...] The Pleasure’s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Pleasure’s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-7094</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-7094</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve read it just recently. Great book and a very interesting story of a real woman. It is hard to write a book about such very personal experiences and I think the author did an awesom job. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve read it just recently. Great book and a very interesting story of a real woman. It is hard to write a book about such very personal experiences and I think the author did an awesom job.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yin</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-6285</link>
		<dc:creator>Yin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-6285</guid>
		<description>I read Marnie/Joan Kelly&#039;s memoir a few years ago and enjoyed the fact that I was finally reading a close account of a woman&#039;s experience in the professional BDSM realm, stripped of glamour and full of the confusion that is very much a part of balancing one&#039;s desires in the kink lifestyle with the desires of making a living with one&#039;s own and clients&#039; perversions.  I will agree that the text left me wanting more introspection, not necessarily conclusion (does literature really need tidy conclusions?), but a deeper dive into every aspect of her experience that was touched upon.  I also didn&#039;t get a strong sense of &quot;ownership&quot; and that bothered me, but it didn&#039;t offend me because, through the years, most of the women I&#039;ve met in the scene don&#039;t &quot;own&quot; their decisions in the business.  I know that that is a really shitty, anti-sorority thing to say, but the truth is that most women are directed by the industry and not vice versus.  I am glad that this is changing.  There is a very different atmosphere in the sex industry now that uplifts and connects through blogs, journals, and online communities.  I applaud these arenas, but even five years ago, support and information was not as accessible.  Sex work feminism came in books, but the discussions that we are able to have now online were only shared in small groups, often with women in houses who were competing for the same clients.  I didn&#039;t read this memoir as an instructor&#039;s manual of how to be a sex worker or as a model for sex worker&#039;s ethics and I didn&#039;t expect it to be.  I read it as one woman&#039;s truth of the raw vulnerability that is inherent in sex work, the loss of self-possession, and the courage to put it all on paper. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Marnie/Joan Kelly&#039;s memoir a few years ago and enjoyed the fact that I was finally reading a close account of a woman&#039;s experience in the professional BDSM realm, stripped of glamour and full of the confusion that is very much a part of balancing one&#039;s desires in the kink lifestyle with the desires of making a living with one&#039;s own and clients&#039; perversions.  I will agree that the text left me wanting more introspection, not necessarily conclusion (does literature really need tidy conclusions?), but a deeper dive into every aspect of her experience that was touched upon.  I also didn&#039;t get a strong sense of &quot;ownership&quot; and that bothered me, but it didn&#039;t offend me because, through the years, most of the women I&#039;ve met in the scene don&#039;t &quot;own&quot; their decisions in the business.  I know that that is a really shitty, anti-sorority thing to say, but the truth is that most women are directed by the industry and not vice versus.  I am glad that this is changing.  There is a very different atmosphere in the sex industry now that uplifts and connects through blogs, journals, and online communities.  I applaud these arenas, but even five years ago, support and information was not as accessible.  Sex work feminism came in books, but the discussions that we are able to have now online were only shared in small groups, often with women in houses who were competing for the same clients.  I didn&#039;t read this memoir as an instructor&#039;s manual of how to be a sex worker or as a model for sex worker&#039;s ethics and I didn&#039;t expect it to be.  I read it as one woman&#039;s truth of the raw vulnerability that is inherent in sex work, the loss of self-possession, and the courage to put it all on paper.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joan Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-6186</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 04:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-6186</guid>
		<description>Well, a) I am enough of a narcissist to still be able to appreciate that someone read my book and talked about it, even if they didn&#039;t like it and b) thanks for the positive things you did say, both the original poster and the commenter.  I got here via the $pread blog. 
 
I have to ask you guys - and if this feels like too combative of a thing to talk about publicly, I am okay with talking about it privately via email too - but I can&#039;t for the life of me understand how, of all places, among all people, I am getting things like how there was something indefensible about the way I did business?  I did what I wanted to do.  The only poor business model part of it is that, as I would guess any sex worker knows, you can&#039;t make a great living doing *only* what you want to do with men for money.  You have to be willing to do things you&#039;re either not that into or outright could do the fuck without.  For a while what I felt like doing coincided with enough people wanting to pay me for it that I could support myself via sessions alone.  After six years, not so much anymore, and partly because my tolerance for doing anything I didn&#039;t really enjoy went way down. 
 
It&#039;s my impression that some pro kinksters or even non-pro perverts disapprove of what I did because I don&#039;t have the same boundaries many people have between fucking and being tied up, spanked, etc.  Or, to put it more succinctly, I don&#039;t have the same reluctance to fuck people I want to fuck, regardless of context, that some kinky people do, in and out of the professional realm.   
 
And for me, there is no such thing as &quot;deeper bottoming techniques and consciousness.&quot;  To me, that&#039;s like saying there is something like a &quot;deeper heterosexual female technique and consciousness.&quot;  My sex drive and urges and the ways I choose to act on them are simply that - they do not make me some specific breed of person, &quot;a submissive.&quot;  I get that many kinky people disagree - that there is this idea of &quot;the submissive mindset&quot; or experience or whatever.  I wrote my book in part because of other people like me, women specifically, who feel and have always felt alienated by that idea of having to fit into a role, having to strive to meet other people&#039;s definitions of who I am because of what gets me off.   
 
You&#039;re right that it&#039;s a fairly fluffy book - I sold my soul to the (ironically non-paying!) publishing devil just to get published, and edited out most of everything they considered &quot;too dark or heavy.&quot;  But it&#039;s not accurate to say that I was ever too timid or ignorant to seek the kinky sexual encounters I wanted recreationally, let alone by the time I started doing pro sessions.  My difficulty was in finding tops who didn&#039;t get the fuck on my nerves, and being tired of sucking cocks I didn&#039;t want to suck just to get someone to spank me already.  Hard to sell the whole &quot;I want you to do things that make me come but I&#039;m not attracted enough to you to want to touch *you* at all&quot; motif when you&#039;re seeing people in your personal life.  Hurts people&#039;s feelings, naturally.  Professionally, &quot;I don&#039;t do that&quot; is taken at face value.  &quot;I *will* do that with you even though I don&#039;t with anyone else&quot; is, as a result, a much freer choice.  In so much as anything in the context of sex and money can truly be described as free. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a) I am enough of a narcissist to still be able to appreciate that someone read my book and talked about it, even if they didn&#039;t like it and b) thanks for the positive things you did say, both the original poster and the commenter.  I got here via the $pread blog.</p>
<p>I have to ask you guys &#8211; and if this feels like too combative of a thing to talk about publicly, I am okay with talking about it privately via email too &#8211; but I can&#039;t for the life of me understand how, of all places, among all people, I am getting things like how there was something indefensible about the way I did business?  I did what I wanted to do.  The only poor business model part of it is that, as I would guess any sex worker knows, you can&#039;t make a great living doing *only* what you want to do with men for money.  You have to be willing to do things you&#039;re either not that into or outright could do the fuck without.  For a while what I felt like doing coincided with enough people wanting to pay me for it that I could support myself via sessions alone.  After six years, not so much anymore, and partly because my tolerance for doing anything I didn&#039;t really enjoy went way down.</p>
<p>It&#039;s my impression that some pro kinksters or even non-pro perverts disapprove of what I did because I don&#039;t have the same boundaries many people have between fucking and being tied up, spanked, etc.  Or, to put it more succinctly, I don&#039;t have the same reluctance to fuck people I want to fuck, regardless of context, that some kinky people do, in and out of the professional realm.  </p>
<p>And for me, there is no such thing as &quot;deeper bottoming techniques and consciousness.&quot;  To me, that&#039;s like saying there is something like a &quot;deeper heterosexual female technique and consciousness.&quot;  My sex drive and urges and the ways I choose to act on them are simply that &#8211; they do not make me some specific breed of person, &quot;a submissive.&quot;  I get that many kinky people disagree &#8211; that there is this idea of &quot;the submissive mindset&quot; or experience or whatever.  I wrote my book in part because of other people like me, women specifically, who feel and have always felt alienated by that idea of having to fit into a role, having to strive to meet other people&#039;s definitions of who I am because of what gets me off.  </p>
<p>You&#039;re right that it&#039;s a fairly fluffy book &#8211; I sold my soul to the (ironically non-paying!) publishing devil just to get published, and edited out most of everything they considered &quot;too dark or heavy.&quot;  But it&#039;s not accurate to say that I was ever too timid or ignorant to seek the kinky sexual encounters I wanted recreationally, let alone by the time I started doing pro sessions.  My difficulty was in finding tops who didn&#039;t get the fuck on my nerves, and being tired of sucking cocks I didn&#039;t want to suck just to get someone to spank me already.  Hard to sell the whole &quot;I want you to do things that make me come but I&#039;m not attracted enough to you to want to touch *you* at all&quot; motif when you&#039;re seeing people in your personal life.  Hurts people&#039;s feelings, naturally.  Professionally, &quot;I don&#039;t do that&quot; is taken at face value.  &quot;I *will* do that with you even though I don&#039;t with anyone else&quot; is, as a result, a much freer choice.  In so much as anything in the context of sex and money can truly be described as free.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pleasurists #11 &#124; Alpine SubDreams</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-6063</link>
		<dc:creator>Pleasurists #11 &#124; Alpine SubDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-6063</guid>
		<description>[...] The Pleasure’s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Pleasure’s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Femmeinist Fucktoy &#187; Pleasurists #11</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-6031</link>
		<dc:creator>The Femmeinist Fucktoy &#187; Pleasurists #11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-6031</guid>
		<description>[...] The Pleasure&#8217;s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Pleasure&#8217;s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Adriana</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-6029</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-6029</guid>
		<description>I read this a few years back and basically agree. To me, she was more a sex worker than anything else. She just tossed some kink into the mix and that&#039;s it. I was surprised that she had sex at all, honestly. To me, that&#039;s not what being a professional submissive would be about but I am neither a professional nor submissive so what do I know? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this a few years back and basically agree. To me, she was more a sex worker than anything else. She just tossed some kink into the mix and that&#039;s it. I was surprised that she had sex at all, honestly. To me, that&#039;s not what being a professional submissive would be about but I am neither a professional nor submissive so what do I know?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Romantically Rebecca - Lingerie &#38; Adult Toys &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pleasurists #11</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-6004</link>
		<dc:creator>Romantically Rebecca - Lingerie &#38; Adult Toys &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pleasurists #11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-6004</guid>
		<description>[...] The Pleasure’s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Pleasure’s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Best Sex Bloggers &#187; Pleasurists #11</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-6002</link>
		<dc:creator>The Best Sex Bloggers &#187; Pleasurists #11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-6002</guid>
		<description>[...] The Pleasure&#8217;s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Pleasure&#8217;s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stiletto Diaries &#187; Pleasurists #11</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2009/01/review-the-pleasures-all-mine-book/comment-page-1/#comment-6001</link>
		<dc:creator>Stiletto Diaries &#187; Pleasurists #11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.sugarbutch.net/?p=1523#comment-6001</guid>
		<description>[...] The Pleasure’s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Pleasure’s All Mine by Sinclair Sexsmith [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

