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		<title>By: zen</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2008/08/if-i-had-a-red-pen/comment-page-1/#comment-9721</link>
		<dc:creator>zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s like people who spell iPod as i-pod or I-pod. it really drives me nuts. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#039;s like people who spell iPod as i-pod or I-pod. it really drives me nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriana</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2008/08/if-i-had-a-red-pen/comment-page-1/#comment-5659</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had red pen envy for many years, I must admit. The only redeeming aspect of teaching as a career? Maybe. LOL </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had red pen envy for many years, I must admit. The only redeeming aspect of teaching as a career? Maybe. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Suzi</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2008/08/if-i-had-a-red-pen/comment-page-1/#comment-3989</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I&#039;m one of those people who commits random capitalisation - and my link to you was in fact done SugarButch. However- I&#039;m really sorry and I&#039;ve edited the link. 
 
Suzi </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I&#039;m one of those people who commits random capitalisation &#8211; and my link to you was in fact done SugarButch. However- I&#039;m really sorry and I&#039;ve edited the link.</p>
<p>Suzi</p>
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		<title>By: Cock Wrangler</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2008/08/if-i-had-a-red-pen/comment-page-1/#comment-3985</link>
		<dc:creator>Cock Wrangler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad you did put this post up. I love grammar talk, especially in locations not devoted to it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad you did put this post up. I love grammar talk, especially in locations not devoted to it.</p>
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		<title>By: !spark!</title>
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		<dc:creator>!spark!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s about &quot;attention to detail&quot;.... Some may call it ocd  but really, I feel,  it&#039;s more than that...  I believe that it&#039;s really about showing respect, for self and of others.  
I can&#039;t control how others perceive me but I can control how I put myself out there.    
Modern communication laziness... one-click bookmarking, spell-check etc... the lot of it... it degrades us, everyone...  
 
OK. All that said, I gotta also say, that I really like leo&#039;s comments,   especially  the  &quot;...it gives me a tiny glimpse...&quot;  part. 
Yeah it&#039;s all about communication... 
And that brings to mind the questions,   
What am I looking to communicate?  
And, what is it that you&#039;re getting from my efforts at communicating?  
Hmmm... those two could be wholly different things.  
 
Oh wow an old memory just popped up - 
My best friend through 5 years of high school, went to college out of state. As a freshman in college, I wrote her a letter (back in the day when pencil and paper ruled). And forever more, I will never forget how to spell her last name, because on the return address of her reply, she&#039;d written it, finnIgan. I never got it wrong again. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#039;s about &quot;attention to detail&quot;&#8230;. Some may call it ocd  but really, I feel,  it&#039;s more than that&#8230;  I believe that it&#039;s really about showing respect, for self and of others. </p>
<p>I can&#039;t control how others perceive me but I can control how I put myself out there.   </p>
<p>Modern communication laziness&#8230; one-click bookmarking, spell-check etc&#8230; the lot of it&#8230; it degrades us, everyone&#8230; </p>
<p>OK. All that said, I gotta also say, that I really like leo&#039;s comments,   especially  the  &quot;&#8230;it gives me a tiny glimpse&#8230;&quot;  part.</p>
<p>Yeah it&#039;s all about communication&#8230;</p>
<p>And that brings to mind the questions,  </p>
<p>What am I looking to communicate? </p>
<p>And, what is it that you&#039;re getting from my efforts at communicating? </p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; those two could be wholly different things. </p>
<p>Oh wow an old memory just popped up -</p>
<p>My best friend through 5 years of high school, went to college out of state. As a freshman in college, I wrote her a letter (back in the day when pencil and paper ruled). And forever more, I will never forget how to spell her last name, because on the return address of her reply, she&#039;d written it, finnIgan. I never got it wrong again.</p>
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		<title>By: Honey</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarbutch.net/2008/08/if-i-had-a-red-pen/comment-page-1/#comment-3927</link>
		<dc:creator>Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies for the misspelling on my website. It took me a minute (like 4 days) to look at my links in my sidebar and see, to my utter embarrassment, that I have been a thorn in your shoe. I share peeves of the same variety, so feel quite empathetic with your annoyance. 
 
Honey 
 
&lt;em&gt;[Aw, thank you - but honestly I didn&#039;t want to make anybody apologize or feel shamed. I kinda wish I&#039;d let my ranting phase pass before I put this whole thing up, but for transparency sake I&#039;m leaving it up now. No need to apologize, regardless. - ss]&lt;/em&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies for the misspelling on my website. It took me a minute (like 4 days) to look at my links in my sidebar and see, to my utter embarrassment, that I have been a thorn in your shoe. I share peeves of the same variety, so feel quite empathetic with your annoyance.</p>
<p>Honey</p>
<p><em>[Aw, thank you - but honestly I didn&#039;t want to make anybody apologize or feel shamed. I kinda wish I&#039;d let my ranting phase pass before I put this whole thing up, but for transparency sake I&#039;m leaving it up now. No need to apologize, regardless. - ss]</em></p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm, one of the offenders here. personally i like the variations that appear in written language outside of formalized, policed contexts. i chose butch girlcat for my own reasons but i think it is interesting when people re-write as butch girl cat or Butch GirlCat or whatever. it gives me a tiny glimpse into how i sound inside their heads--the endlessly fascinating and unknowable thing that happens between production and reception. and then the idiosyncratic spelling, too, like i love that you write fucken instead of fucking or fuckin&#039;. it makes me think of the analogy of with wheaten or flaxen, completing the journey between verb and adjective.

but since you asked... your b now officially lowercase over at mine.

&lt;em&gt;[Wow, thanks for that comment. I really like that idea. My background is also in brand identity, advertising, &amp; design, so sometimes I think I get pretty darn caught up on the little details. I like this take on it, thanks. - ss - ps: I caught on to &quot;fucken&quot; from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.neilgaiman.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Neil Gaiman&lt;/a&gt;, one of my favorite authors ever. I&#039;m a thorough ears with feet like that. ]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm, one of the offenders here. personally i like the variations that appear in written language outside of formalized, policed contexts. i chose butch girlcat for my own reasons but i think it is interesting when people re-write as butch girl cat or Butch GirlCat or whatever. it gives me a tiny glimpse into how i sound inside their heads&#8211;the endlessly fascinating and unknowable thing that happens between production and reception. and then the idiosyncratic spelling, too, like i love that you write fucken instead of fucking or fuckin&#8217;. it makes me think of the analogy of with wheaten or flaxen, completing the journey between verb and adjective.</p>
<p>but since you asked&#8230; your b now officially lowercase over at mine.</p>
<p><em>[Wow, thanks for that comment. I really like that idea. My background is also in brand identity, advertising, &#038; design, so sometimes I think I get pretty darn caught up on the little details. I like this take on it, thanks. - ss - ps: I caught on to "fucken" from <a href="http://www.neilgaiman.com/" rel="nofollow">Neil Gaiman</a>, one of my favorite authors ever. I'm a thorough ears with feet like that. ]</em></p>
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		<title>By: SublimeFemme</title>
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		<dc:creator>SublimeFemme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My response to the grammar police &lt;&lt;no more twist!:

Do you really think there is a lot of grammar fetishizing in contemporary American culture??  I just don&#039;t think most people care that much.

That said, I see your point, which asks us to think about the fetish not just in terms of sexual power but social power--something that&#039;s often unacknowledged by disciplinarians wielding rulers or red pens. 

I think you&#039;re right that class privilege needs to be taken into consideration. I would say that class, race and gender all play significant roles in governing not just who has access to grammatical knowledge but also the constitution of grammar itself.    

All of this doesn&#039;t mean that traditional grammatical rules/sentence construction is &quot;a pile of classist bullshit.&quot;  I don&#039;t think that anyone is saying that grammar is sacrosanct or makes us better people.  

In my view, putting words together clearly helps us to interrogate received ideas and social norms and even gain access to new modes of pleasure and enjoyment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response to the grammar police &lt;&lt;no more twist!:</p>
<p>Do you really think there is a lot of grammar fetishizing in contemporary American culture??  I just don&#8217;t think most people care that much.</p>
<p>That said, I see your point, which asks us to think about the fetish not just in terms of sexual power but social power&#8211;something that&#8217;s often unacknowledged by disciplinarians wielding rulers or red pens. </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right that class privilege needs to be taken into consideration. I would say that class, race and gender all play significant roles in governing not just who has access to grammatical knowledge but also the constitution of grammar itself.    </p>
<p>All of this doesn&#8217;t mean that traditional grammatical rules/sentence construction is &#8220;a pile of classist bullshit.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t think that anyone is saying that grammar is sacrosanct or makes us better people.  </p>
<p>In my view, putting words together clearly helps us to interrogate received ideas and social norms and even gain access to new modes of pleasure and enjoyment.</p>
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		<title>By: the grammar police &#171; no more twist!</title>
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		<dc:creator>the grammar police &#171; no more twist!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 13, 2008   The post on Sugarbutch today touched on one of my pet peeves&#8211;the fetishization of grammar, punctuation, and spelling. Other [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You lost me at dactyl and cretic.   At first I thought &quot;oh no, is it me&quot; then I checked.. lol nope.

Loved Secretary.  Loved it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lost me at dactyl and cretic.   At first I thought &#8220;oh no, is it me&#8221; then I checked.. lol nope.</p>
<p>Loved Secretary.  Loved it.</p>
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